Note: I have a co-authored paper with my friends Jonathan Lang and Bekka Williams on this topic. I don't want to speak for them here, so I'm using "I" rather than "we" for this post. They might well disagree strongly with some of the things I say (or the way I say them). However, most of what I say below is indebted to my conversations with Jonathan and Bekka, and is developed much more extensively in our paper.

Here's an important fact about democratic political life: Some political outcomes are considered to be up for discussion, while others are excluded from consideration. For example, when an election is coming up, candidates for major parties (Democrats and Republicans in the U.S.) get a lot of attention, whereas third-party candidates (e.g., the Libertarians, the Greens, etc.) are often excluded. Similarly, when we're debating an issue of public policy, some possible policies are up for discussion, whereas others are not.

We each get to decide whether to include or exclude any given candidate or policy from consideration. And those decisions are collectively (if not individually) consequential. For example, if sufficiently many people exclude a candidate from consideration, then her fate is sealed. Because these exclusionary decisions are consequential, we should try to make them in a principled and reasoned way. When we exclude a given political outcome from consideration, we should be able to offer reasons why.

What principle can be used to decide whether to exclude someone (or something) from consideration in political discourse? Here's an option:

The Probability Principle: For any given political outcome O, there is some probability threshold X such that O ought to be considered iff Pr(O)>X.

The Probability Principle (or some cousin of it) seems to be in the background of many of our exclusionary decisions. For example, in political discourse surrounding the presidential election of 2012, one often heard sentences like this: "Let's not talk about Jill Stein, even though she'd make a great president, because she almost certainly won't win."

Against the Probability Principle, I offer the following argument.

First, political discourse is a form of reasoning about what to do: in political discourse, we are reasoning about whether to elect this or that candidate, or institute this or that policy, or whatever.

But, second, when we reason about what to do at the individual level–e.g., when an individual agent is deciding about whether to give to charity, or go vegan, or fulfill a promise, or get married, etc.–the probability of one's making various available decisions is not a relevant factor. ("I probably will not fulfill my promise, and therefore I should not even consider whether to do so" seems like a very bad inference.)

Thus, if the Probability Principle is true, then there is a disanalogy between political discourse and deliberation at the individual level.

But I see no way to explain why such a disanalogy would exist. Why would "We probably will not elect Jill Stein, so we should not even consider whether to do so" be a good inference if "I probably will not fulfill my promise, and therefore I should not even consider whether to do so" is a bad inference?

I see no satisfactory explanation of the disanalogy between political discourse and deliberation at the individual level. So, I think we should abandon the Probability Principle and look for another one.

Here's an option:

The Utility Principle: For any given political outcome O, O ought to be considered iff considering O is better, in utilitarian terms, than not considering O.

If you're a utilitarian, it'll be easy to sell you on the Utility Principle. But the Utility Principle does not reflect a typical approach to political discourse. Consider: For the average citizen, political discourse has approximately zero utility-enhancing effects, because the average citizen's political speech has very little effect on political outcomes. Given this, if we were to accept the Utility Principle, I think we should recommend that most individuals refrain from considering any political outcomes at all. So, I think, the mere fact that people engage in political discourse at all suggests that most people reject (implicitly) the Utility Principle.

The demarcation problem is this: How can we find a principle to guide us in our decisions about what to include and what to exclude in political discourse? I see three ways that this problem might ultimately be resolved:

(1) Conservatism about political discourse: We might find a principle that could justify all (or most) of the exclusionary decisions that we conventionally make. For example, we might find a principle that would justify the exclusion of Greens and Libertarians from consideration in political discourse, and would also justify the inclusion of Democrats and Republicans in political discourse. 

(2) Moderate revisionism about political discourse: We might find that there is no principle that could justify all (or even most) of the exclusionary decisions that we conventionally make. But we might find that there is some principle that can justify some exclusionary decisions. This resolution of the problem would force us to consider some outcomes that we might otherwise have been disposed to ignore (and might also force us to ignore some outcomes that we might otherwise have been disposed to consider), but would allow us to continue excluding some outcomes from consideration.

(3) Extreme inclusivism about political discourse: We might find that there is no principle that can justify any exclusionary decisions, and therefore any practically possible political outcome deserves to be considered right alongside every other practically possible political outcome.

My money is on (3). I don't think there is any principle that can justify the exclusion of any practically possible political outcome from consideration in political discourse. In my (tentative) view, any given candidate for political office, for example, ought to be given equal consideration alongside all the others, and ought to be discarded only if she is shown to be a worse candidate than the others.

Extreme inclusivism requires a radical change in the way that we engage in political discourse. If we were to become extreme inclusivists, it would not be enough just to consider a few of the third-party candidates, e.g., the Greens and the Libertarians; we would have to consider (at least implicitly) millions of different candidates. I do not think this approach is feasible–i.e., I do not think that very many people will become extreme inclusivists anytime soon–but I think it is what we ought to do.

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4 responses to “A demarcation problem for political discourse”

  1. But isn’t whether I keep my promise or go vegan or give to charity under my control where whether Jill Stein has a chance of winning an election is not?
    Suppose I knew with practical certainty that, due to traffic, I would not be able to make an appointment across town. It doesn’t seem that strange to say something like, “I would almost certainly fail to follow through on my promise to make that appointment, so I am not going to bother talking about making it or what would happen if I made or tried to follow through…”
    I agree that there is something fishy about referring to akrasia or practical incompetence to exclude a particular action from discussion, but it seems less fishy to do so when the obstacles are not those of my own making.
    Perhaps I am missing something?

  2. David Killoren

    Hey Patrick,
    True, the obstacles in question aren’t of my making or yours. But they are of our making. If we want Jill Stein to be our president, it’s not like traffic will stop us from electing her; it’s not like Canada will invade in order to stop us from doing so. Our failure to elect her will be due to our failure en masse to vote for her in sufficient numbers.
    One possibility is that political discourse is like reasoning about what some other person ought to do. Perhaps the polity constitutes a group agent, and when we are talking about an upcoming election (for example), we’re talking about what that group agent ought to do. (I think this is actually a pretty good view of what political discourse is.) But if we say this, then I think the analogy still holds. If I’m reasoning about what Steve ought to do, the fact that Steve is unlikely to fulfill his promise (or whatever) is not a good reason to exclude from consideration the possibility that he ought to fulfill his promise. Likewise, if I’m reasoning about what the polity ought to do, the fact that the polity is unlikely to go for Jill Stein doesn’t seem like a good reason to exclude from consideration whether it ought to go for Jill Stein.

  3. ambrose

    Another conclusion: the problem of exclusion demonstrates that democratic procedures can’t be reasonable (or can’t really be decisions).

  4. I don’t really agree with any part of this:
    a) I don’t thing “we” do exclude people/options politically. In the pub, me and my mates discuss every conceivable political position. Or is that not the “we” you were talking about? In Congress, you will find proponents of pretty much any position you like (check out those senators, some of them are weird!). Or do you mean televised debates? That seems to me like a very wrong-headed definition of what politics is.
    b) The probability threshold doesn’t seem to be true. Politicians talk about things which won’t happen all the time: world peace, stopping illegal immigration, repealing Obamacare, etc. etc.
    c) The idea that we make no reference to probability when talking about individual action is clearly not true. I’d like to be a professional musician, but I have neither the talent nor the application required to get myself to that standard of skill. So I don’t think about it (much!).
    I think at the root of all these disagreements is that your argument seems to ignore process. You write as though there are two things: (1) political consideration (2) political action. But that’s not how it is. There is a political process which is shaped by and shapes political consideration, and political action is the outcome of that iterative process: consideration<>process > action.
    So in terms of the example you give, if I choose not to think much about third party presidential candidates, because it is a fact of the process that they’re not going to win. That doesn’t mean that I or anyone else is excluding them (it should be noted that they are formally included by law). It just means that I am already several steps down the path of iterative consideration: these are the issues that I’m interested in, these are the candidates’ positions, these are the processes by which candidates become president, these features of the process mean that candidates X, Y and Z aren’t going to make it, of the remaining candidates my concerns map best onto candidate P, and so on and so forth.

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