By Anonymous

What is it like to be at a terminal MA program in philosophy?

In this piece I will briefly discuss what life has been like for me as student at a terminal MA. I will try to describe the experience as fairly as possible. I will try to describe my daily life, what I enjoy about it, and the things I don't appreciate. I'll simply be honest about what it's been like for me. I will also include some general commentary on where I see myself fitting into the profession as an MA student.

I am in my second and final year at a funded MA program in philosophy, a program that is well regarded in the profession, and where a few students every year go on to well regarded PhD programs. In the first year we do coursework, and in the second year we teach, churn out an MA thesis, and conclude our coursework. By the time I’ve completed my degree, I will have taught for three semesters as the sole instructor of my own course (making my own syllabus and exams, my own grading, my own lectures, etc.). I will have defended an original piece of philosophical argumentation (my thesis), and presented this same work at conferences. I will also have written several seminar papers on many of the central areas of philosophy (political, ethics, language, ancient, etc.) and I will also have a background in sentential and predicate logic. Some individuals in my MA program have published, though not, to my knowledge, in the most highly regarded journals in the discipline.

The profession has not yet adjusted to the existence of strong terminal MA programs, and as such, many of our graduates have to basically restart their academic careers when they arrive at the PhD, faced with the same requirements as the bright eyed first years straight out of their undergraduate years. I majored in philosophy in undergrad and did very well, but no doubt in part because my school is most well known for its football team, I was shut out of PhDs and came to an MA, a credential which will not be recognized by many of the PhD programs in the country when it comes to setting up my degree requirements. It seems to me very unfortunate that my two years here will not count toward the completion of my PhD, not as distribution requirements nor toward the total hour amount.

I am currently awaiting results from the PhD programs I applied to. Since this was my second time applying out, philosophy admissions has been quite an onerous expense. I promise myself that if I am ever in a position of influence in our profession, I will advocate on behalf of applicants and seek to reduce their exorbitant expenses. I have no doubt that I am a much stronger applicant than I was coming out of undergrad. My philosophical writing is much sharper, my awareness of the literature in my AOS is both broader and deeper, my letters can speak with much more authority to my strengths as a developing philosopher, and I have strong teaching reviews and a fledgling research program.

Despite my disgruntled disposition toward some elements of my situation, I very much have enjoyed my time in the MA, and in fact I think the profession would be in a better place if all PhD aspirants went through a terminal MA en route to the PhD. About 30-40% of our graduates go on to PhD programs in philosophy (and our very best students have secured as high as top 5 PhD spots), but the rest go on to PhDs in other fields, law school, community college teaching or other jobs. Students are able to get a sense for what it’s like to be a professional philosopher with no pressure whatsoever to stay longer than the two years expected to receive the MA. The conclusion of the program is a natural way for some folks to leave the profession in peace, rather than with the feelings of angst and failure that many students report as they decide whether or not to leave their PhD program. Students who do successfully complete a rigorous MA have shown, in my view, exactly the kinds of skills that PhD programs hope their incoming students will have. Consequently, strong, funded MA programs seem like a good way to level the playing field in terms of pedigree, and to allow students the opportunity to see if philosophy is really for them. I have a much clearer understanding of what it’s like to be a teacher of philosophy, of what average undergraduates are like and what is reasonable to expect of them. I also am much more aware of what it means to be a researcher in philosophy. Finally, my advisers have all been very frank about the stark realities of the job market.

I’ll take a moment to dispel two myths that make their way around the blogs about MA programs, 1) that students here didn’t major in philosophy or otherwise bungled their undergraduate years and 2) students in MA programs are wealthy. Neither is true. I won’t name institutions for the sake of anonymity, but pretty much everyone I know in my program majored in philosophy, and some even attended the most highly regarded schools (PGR top 5). An individual who had little background in philosophy, unless they were an absolutely brilliant student, would not be able to succeed here. Many students here were superstars at schools you’ve never heard of, or have only heard of their football team. Secondly, the average student here is certainly not wealthy. Most have as their only source of income the meager stipend we receive, which means almost everyone in the program is technically in poverty. Uninformed individuals who assume folks in terminal MAs are wealthy do us a great disservice in spreading such baseless speculation. For the record, I feel like my MA has done right by me at almost every opportunity, funneling money from grants to the graduate student stipends whenever possible, above what was promised (and given our esteemed and research active faculty, this has happened every semester I’ve been in the program).

On a typical day I attend class, teach, attend talks or participate in weekly pedagogical workshops. I live with several members of my cohort, and I have found a happy, healthy social life with them. I have my complaints, of course, but on the whole I think our department is very well managed, productive, friendly, and achieves a surprising unity of disciplines and personalities towards the ultimate goals of our department (teaching, placement and research, in some order). I would wholeheartedly recommend that promising undergraduates from less well known schools apply to our department.

I have also been humbled in my time here, which I think is a worthwhile value to have in professional philosophy. Coming through undergrad, I was always the philosophy superstar, as it were, winning the departmental awards and the attention of the faculty. Here, I am among my peers. The average student in our department is so intelligent, so hard-working, so nerdy for philosophy, so ambitious and so accomplished that it’s scary to think I will be competing with some of these folks for PhD spots and one day perhaps even for jobs. I know that I’m not the next Wittgenstein. And I’m fine with that.

I will be sad to leave my MA. I will miss my friends, and this city, and this department. I find my teaching responsibilities fulfilling but not overwhelming. I have a lot of freedom to teach what I want and write about what I want. I have sufficient autonomy, companionship and down time to have a happy life, maybe even enough to compensate for my meager wages. I am probably living in the good old days, and though I am so excited to see which (if any!) PhD programs are interested in me, I know that once I’m there I will miss my MA very much.

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5 responses to “What it is like to be at a terminal MA program”

  1. Liz

    The terminal MA is the norm in Canada and the UK. I myself did one and found it immensely valuable. Approximately 30% of us carried on to the PhD. When I was applying to the American PhD system (not being from the US) I was genuinely shocked that undergraduates were going straight into PhD programs. Remembering how I was when I started my MA, I found it shocking that these people were talking about all their important research plans, etc. when in fact you don’t have a clue when you first start out. I think MA programs are fantastic both for preparing people for independent research and for giving people a ‘taster’ before committing to many more years of PhD work.

  2. My experience was almost identical to the OP’s. MAs are a really important tool for leveling the playing field a bit when it comes to PhD applications.
    Two points to the author: 1) Good luck with the PhD apps!, and 2) At my program, I was able to transfer a few classes toward degree requirements, which meant that I was essentially finished with coursework after one year. Departmental and university policies vary, of course, but I would look into it more once you know where you’re going.

  3. Anonymous, thanks for the great post. I’ll like to point out though that some Phd programs do give credit for MA work; specifically, Boston University does. See their program regulae for details: http://www.bu.edu/philo/files/2014/03/Regulae-revised-March-30-2014.pdf
    There may be others.

  4. MA MA MA

    I know a number of the leading philosophy departments in Canada used to have (and probably still do have) one year MA programmes. On the one hand, this is a bit of problem. In such a programme, one begins to apply for the PhD (at the same place and other places as well) even before one has completed a semester. For MAs to have some of the benefits identified by others, they should be 2 year programmes. Still it was sensible to have to a self-standing degree programme. It allowed departments to take a chance on someone, and it also allowed students who were uncertain to have a taste before choosing to embark on a long programme (Ph.D.). But people must realize that if all Departments had BOTH PhD and MA programmes, faculty at the best programmes will likely focus attention on the Ph.D. students, and let the M.A. students take care of themselves.

  5. Pendaran Roberts

    I did a terminal MA at the University of Missouri -St. Louis. The first year was tough, because the courses were quite a bit harder than those at my undergrad institution. However, I quickly ‘figured it out’ and ended up excelling. Berit Brogaard was there at the time and she’s a great mentor!
    Re transferring classes, I have heard that US programs have tons of classes and exams and other nonsense. Sometimes they let you transfer some classes from your MA program, other times they don’t.
    I ended up doing my PhD in the UK. Their system is different. It is required that you do an MA before you do the PhD. The MA involves taking classes and writing papers and a short thesis like US MAs. Very similar really.
    The PhD though is quite different. You just have to write a long dissertation. Mine ended up being 100,000 words. I had two one-on-one meetings with my advisor every month for 2-3 hours each where we would basically chat about my work. He taught me a whole lot too!
    There were no classes, but there was a graduate seminar and another seminar where guest speakers would come and give talks. There were no tests for these, but you learned a lot by going. The PhD was pass/fail.
    This system allowed me to concentrate on my own research project for 4 years. This has allowed me to become quite an expert in my field and publish quite a few articles in good places. I doubt that would have been possible in a US program.
    The downfall of a UK program is that you’ve really got to be self motivated. There isn’t any hand holding, and the deadline for the PhD is 4 years away. I know a lot of people who procrastinate a lot and do a poor job. I didn’t have that problem!
    I said there are no grades for the PhD. This is true. But it is required that one of your examiners be external to the university and someone you don’t know well. This person’s written evaluation is like a qualitative grade so to speak. Also whether or not you get corrections is kind of a like a grade. You don’t want to get major corrections, as that looks pretty bad! You’re also going to get a poor evaluation.

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