I had dinner with an early-career philosopher friend the other evening, and at one point the conversation turned to a topic I have cared a great deal about ever since I was in graduate school: helping graduate students succeed. As readers may (or may not) know, I attended two different philosophy PhD programs: Syracuse in the late '90s, and then Arizona (where I transferred because four of our star faculty at Syracuse were simultaneously hired away by other programs). I have very fond memories of joining both programs. It was truly exciting–and more than a bit humbling–as a young person who loved philosophy to join programs with so many talented and brilliant people. I particularly remember the grad students in both programs. Basically everyone who entered the programs was smart as a whip, with a history of academic success. As a naive newcomer, I confess that I expected that most of the grad students I knew would succeed, get tenure-track jobs, and go on to have long careers in the academy.

Of course, and unfortunately, I was wrong. While I don't have the statistics in front of me, I seem to recall coming across a statistic several years ago that something like only 50% of philosophy PhD students ever finish the degree, let alone finish and get a tenure-track job. At any rate, even if this statistic is wrong, every graduate program I've ever visited or heard about has plenty of students who fit that description–students who hang around the program for 7-8 or even 10 years, only to fade from view, never finishing the degree. Moreover, at least in my own experience, it tended to be very surprising which students those would be. A few cases aside, I don't think anyone–neither I, nor the faculty or other students in the programs I joined–could forecast very well which new students would succeed and which wouldn't. For my part, some of the students I felt sure would succeed didn't, and some who I expected wouldn't succeed did. Indeed, from my perspective at least, some of the most brilliant grad students I knew didn't make it, whereas some of the "less talented" ones did. Why?

This brings me to the conversation I had the other night. My friend, who came out of a non-Leiter-ranked institution, has in my view done spectacularly well on the job-market–far better, for what I can see, than many candidates coming out of fancier programs. In past conversations, and this one as well, I remarked that I think it has probably been because, in addition to being a good philosopher, he has been a "real professional." He has, as far as I can tell, done just about everything right as a grad student: he's published, networked, has a positive online presence, and so on. I knew a handful of students just like him in my many years as a grad student–and they too are to this day have gone onto have more successful careers than most of the other students I knew. 

Anyway, my friend and I then discussed how grad students "go wrong." We both noted that although there are a lot of really talented grad students, for one reason or another many of them don't end up doing the kinds of things they need to put themselves in a position to succeed. Either they are brilliant or they don't publish, or they don't network, or they alienate their faculty advisors, and so on. As someone who made a number of mistakes in graduate school myself, I very much identified with our conversation here. "Doing everything right" in graduate school is tough. Many grad students are young, still "finding themselves" (and yes, making mistakes) as human beings. And grad school can be a real trial: journal rejections, competition for faculty support, trouble developing dissertation topics, comprehensive exams–they can all get you down, destroy one's confidence or zest for philosophy; and so on. I struggled with many of these obstacles, and so did many other people I knew…and I finished the PhD myself only by the skin of my teeth

It occurred to me later on–after the conversation–that in my experience there are many different "common types" of graduate students. Although I don't ordinarily like "putting people into boxes"–and I by no means intend to generalize or derogate any category of person–I do think it can be helpful (for reasons I will give momentarily) to reflect on the different types of ways graduate students can struggle and/or fail. Here, then, are a few broad categories that in my experience grad students can fall into (and indeed, for my part, at different times in my grad career, I found myself more than a few of the categories I list):

  • The professionals: grad students who "do everything right", acing their coursework and comp exams, publishing successfully, getting faculty support, network effectively, etc.
  • The force-of-willers: grad students who make various errors but somehow "don't let themselves fail", doing whatever it takes to overcome setbacks (writing more papers, learning how to network, etc.).
  • The perfectionists: grad students who are often incredibly brilliant, but never send anything out to publish because their work is never "good enough."
  • The self-doubters: grad students who are perfectly capable of doing good work, but are paralyzed by self-doubt.
  • The isolators: grad students who–either because of personality quirks or (more often?) lack of confidence or even mental health issues–withdraw from the department, rarely seeing their advisors or attending departmental functions.
  • The distracteds: grad students who, for one reason or another–perhaps because they feel like they "need an outlet" to deal with the stresses of grad school–end up spending more time on hobbies (e.g. music, videogames, dating, etc.) than they do on philosophy.
  • The alienators: grad students who, for one reason or another–perhaps out of insecurity, or megalomania, or mental health issues–alienate members of their department.

Again, I don't mean to say that these categories accurately "define" anyone as a person (I myself fell into several of these categories despite thinking that none of them define(d) me as a person!). My reason for listing them is to simply draw attention to some common ways that–in my experience–grad students can either "go right" or "go wrong." Can you think of any other common categories?

This brings me, finally, to the point I want to argue for–which is that it seems to me rarely discussed what programs and faculty should do given that grad students predictably end up in many of these categories. As my friend put it–and this is my experience too–faculty and grad programs often appear to see it as their job to "give grad students information" (on how to publish, network, etc.) but then leave it up to grad students to either do those things or not. This common approach–if indeed it still is common–fits with the common saying, "You can lead a horse to water, but you can't make them drink." Alas, I want to suggest that this approach is a mistake. If my years as an educator–and my recent work mentoring a PhD student at another institution–have taught me anything, it is that if you want people to succeed (as I do), you need to meet them where they are, providing some real, concrete, hands-on direction to help them successfully grapple with the things they are struggling with (including, yes, whatever character-deficiencies they might currently possess). I know, I know – I've heard it many times: grad school faculty aren't "baby-sitters." I agree, but I also think there's a difference between being a baby-sitter and being an effective professional mentor. Baby-sitters watch over children, protecting them from harm, doing things for them. A good professional mentor does not do things for a student. What they do is help those they are mentoring understand what they are doing wrong, and then learn how to do better.

Here, I think, is a helpful example – one I think I recently learned a great deal from. I currently mentor several people, including (as I mentioned above) a grad student at another university. This student does good work, but do to perfectionist tendencies and poor planning does not get work done and out to journals in a timely fashion–things she needs to do to succeed as an academic. For a while, I handled her situation the way I have seen so many academic mentors do, letting her "figure out her own problems", expressing some displeasure with her performance (viz. "You need to be more productive and get things out"), and so on. Alas, none of this worked. Then I took a very different tack: I carefully explained to her how I get things done–how I make clear, concrete daily and weekly goals in my head about exactly what I need to accomplish and when (by what date), and then hold myself to those goals, never falling behind (or, if I do, making myself catch up the next day). I then helped her draw out a daily and weekly plan of her own to illustrate–and, so far, it has worked like a charm!

I'm not saying I'm a perfect mentor, by any means. What I am saying is that I think PhD programs and grad faculty should think about and approach these issues more carefully than they often appear to, and at all relevant junctures–not only when it comes to particular students, but also when it comes to decisions about how many students to admit to a program to begin with. I say this, again, not because I think we should be "baby-sitters", but because I think it is the responsible thing to do with vulnerable people (grad students) who have so much at stake (7-10 years in grad school, even if they succeed!). Given how terrible the academic job-market is these days, I think we should move away from a "sink or swim" approach, and instead make it a point of ensuring that as many grad students as we admit go onto succeed–either by adopting more hands-on mentoring strategies, or by restricting how many students one's program admits (so as to better serve the students who are admitted), or both.

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11 responses to “Helping graduate students succeed: are better mentoring and admissions strategies needed?”

  1. Derek Bowman

    I see how a more mindful approach to grad student mentoring may allow an individual faculty member to better help an individual candidate to succeed. But I don’t see how the profession as a whole can use this to help grad students as a whole be more successful. This isn’t going to improve the supply of available jobs – at best it will improve the completion rate for PhD programs, leading (at least in the short term) to even more PhDs searching for the same too-small pool of faculty jobs.

  2. Marcus Arvan

    Hi Derek: Thanks for your comment. Here are a few thoughts in reply. The point of the post wasn’t just about mentoring (though that is a big part of it). The post also suggested that perhaps programs should adjust their admissions policies to better ensure student success. My message was: I don’t think any program should see a 50% attrition-rate, combined with (say) a 40% TT job-placement rate, as acceptable outcomes. The main point of the post is that insofar as these things seem common today, programs and faculty should probably rethink admissions and mentoring policies. If programs admitted fewer students, but then heavily invested themselves in ensuring that as many as they do admit success–both finishing the program and getting good jobs–then that, I think would be a great improvement. Which is why I think we should be having these conversations.
    All that being said, even if admissions policies didn’t change–and even if the academic job market stays terrible (as it probably will)–I still think improving mentoring would be a significant good. As someone who almost failed out of grad school, my biggest fear of all wasn’t that I would never get a tenure-track job. It’s that I would have wasted eight years of my life for nothing–not even getting the degree I was working toward for nearly a decade: something that would have made me feel like an abject failure, and probably also look bad to non-academic employers. At the very least, if better mentoring ensures that more PhD students at least finish the degree successfully–and in a timely manner (e.g. 5-6 years instead of 7-10+)–then at least many of those who don’t get tenure track jobs could at least know that they had been a success in one important sense: successfully receiving a PhD, which they could then at least have on their professional resume as an accomplishment.

  3. anonymous

    I think it’s important to not generalize too much here. I spent a ton of time in graduate school extremely stressed out and annoyed because people wouldn’t stop trying to “mentor” me. Not everyone needs or wants advice about how to succeed, and when students have very different sets of values and goals from mentors, that advice can be really hard to deal with (especially when there is pressure to please the people doing the mentoring, but their suggestions and “helpful” advice are unwanted). I luckily had an adviser who didn’t treat me this way and indeed treated me as though I was his equal both professionally and philosophically. I wish that all of the faculty in my department had done this; the very worst part of graduate school, for me, was feeling like I was being treated like a child in various ways, and one of them is by people doing pretty much exactly what you describe here.
    Of course, it’s probably helpful to a lot of people–but I’d just encourage people to be careful: do you know that the grad student has similar goals to you? Do they value the same things that you do? Are you certain they want your advice? (Make sure to ask first!) etc.

  4. Marcus Arvan

    Hi anonymous: Interesting. Those are very good points. In many ways, I think we basically agree!
    As I noted in the post, I think good mentoring tends (though I don’t want to generalize too much!) to involve meeting “students where they are”, figuring out what the want and need to be successful–in a way that treats them as adults with their own preferences, values, and so on. I certainly don’t think good mentors should treat students like children. So, for students like you–who, let’s say, have a good professional sense of where they’d like to go and how to get there–I’d be inclined to say a good mentor would be like the one you mention: the one who treated you as an equal professionally and philosophically. I also entirely agree that it is probably a good idea for mentors to ask whether the student wants help or advice (and indeed, precisely what kind of help or advice they are looking for).
    This is the approach I adopted with the person I’m mentoring. She had a professional disappointment, and I approached her asking if there is anything I could do, noting that I had grappled with similar things in the past, and that I had developed some strategies that worked for me that she might be able to use if she was interested.
    My concern, though–at least the one that inspired the present post–is that I’ve seen all too many grad students “fall through the cracks” because faculty weren’t willing to go out of their “mentoring comfort zone” and do more, as a mentor, to help struggling students succeed. In other words, while I think you are absolutely right (about basically everything you said), there are good reasons to have a more open and candid conversation about things faculty and programs can and should do to help students who currently fall through the cracks not needlessly suffer that fate (when there are things a good mentor, and good program, could do to help).
    Anyway, thanks so much for your comment: really good points! 🙂

  5. I would propose there is at least one more group of grad students that could be added to this list, though they might overlap a bit with some of the other categories. An appropriate label might be the “disillusioned.” These are grad students who lose their love for philosophy during graduate school or otherwise come to dislike philosophy as it is done in an academic setting. I’ve run into quite a few of these folks over the years, and as one might expect, as their loathing of graduate school increases, they tend to struggle more.
    For these folks — in contrast to most of the other groups you describe — I think the right move is for them to leave their graduate program and to pursue a career outside of philosophy. In practice, I’ve seen this often result in taking a terminal MA instead of seeing a PhD through to its conclusion. Where members of this group get into the most trouble, from what I’ve seen, is when they continue along with their graduate studies despite hating it (e.g., because of their investment in the program up to that point or because they believe they have no other career options). Often, after many years of toil, they find themselves set up with low odds of landing a job that they may not really want anyway. Philosophy faculty are often not well-positioned to help grad students find non-academic careers, but at a minimum, I think this group is helped when they feel like leaving their respective programs is not viewed by the faculty as a failure or disappointment. A little reassurance and encouragement can go a long way in such cases.

  6. Filippo Contesi

    Marcus, I would like to suggest that in many cases there may be reasons to alienate members of one’s department that are more, for lack of a better phrase, ‘desirable’ than “out of insecurity, or megalomania, or mental health issues”: e.g. ethical reasons in the presence of less-than-ideal moral behaviour from members of the department. If one is an “alienator” for some such reasons, then one can also very well be a perfect “professional”. Then the questions are: will someone like this person still be successful as “professionals” usually (in your experience) are, and should they be? 🙂

  7. Filippo Contesi

    Or can one (be a perfect “professional” but also an “alienator” for ethical reasons and such)?

  8. Marcus Arvan

    Hi Trevor: Great addition! In fact, I’m surprised I left it out, as I was a “disillusioned” in graduate school for several years.
    However, I have to disagree with your advice. While it may make sense for some disillusioned students to leave their program, I think there are at least two options: (1) leave, or (2) change your attitude so that you become less disillusioned.
    I chose the latter. I stopped worrying so much about competing, professionalization, etc., and instead just tried to enjoy doing philosophy for its own sake. And it worked! My disillusionment faded away – and I’m certainly glad I didn’t leave my program. I now love being a philosopher, and am glad that I have the career I do.

  9. Marcus, I’m not sure it is within most graduate students’ power to alter their outlook on philosophy in the way you describe. A disillusioned attitude will probably manifest gradually over the course of a few years in the program. Some students can and do escape that mindset, but a lot of them don’t: it’s very difficult to dislodge attitudes that get ingrained that deeply. So if I were in the position of giving a grad student in those circumstances candid advice, I would strongly encourage them to consider their options beyond philosophy and not just continue on in the hopes that an attitude adjustment will solve the problem or that things will otherwise get better. Continuing along is risky, and the more one invests in the program, the more psychologically difficult it will be to leave the program later if things continue to go badly.
    So you’re right that there are more options available to disillusioned grad students than leaving the program. But in the overwhelming majority of cases, that’s still the advice that I would give them.

  10. Marcus Arvan

    Hi Trevor: That may be true, I’m not sure. I know many don’t escape the mindset–but I cannot help but wonder how often this may be from one not recognizing that it is one’s own attitude that needs to change. It took me many years to realize that, although there are things about the profession that disillusioned me, it was primarily my response to those features of the profession that made me unhappy–responses that I was able to change.
    I don’t mean to suggest that everyone can change their perspective or attitude in this way. I would just caution people about quitting too quickly out of disillusionment, in part because they might find the world outside of academia no less disillusioning. I worked in the private sector before attending grad school, and I was disillusioned there with many of the same things (viz. power hierarchies, seemingly-arbitrary rules, etc.) that made me unhappy in academia. I ultimately learned that I needed to change–that since the world would probably never be the way I want it to be, I have to learn to find and focus on the good things about my situation.
    That’s all I meant to suggest. I am sure you and I, like most people, know people who are unhappy wherever they go–whatever town they live in, whatever career they have, and so on. In some such cases, the lesson to learn is not to cut and run (which may be the “easy way out”, and not ultimately a way out of unhappiness at all). It is that one must learn to work on oneself, discover why one is disillusioned or unhappy, and see if it is the result of one’s attitude more than the world around oneself.
    I am sure there are many people who–after thinking about all of these things carefully–should still leave the profession. But I would caution others from jumping to such conclusions too quickly. I’m glad I didn’t!

  11. Postdoc

    What’s needed to help grad students succeed is to admit less graduate students, and to hire based on merit and not demographics and connections.
    Well that would be a start!

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