In the comments section of our most recent "how can we help you?" thread, Peter writes:

I’m currently finishing up at a fairly prestigious graduate program. As expected, all of my advisors are interested in getting me a research job. They tend to talk up opportunities at R1s and talk about the “struggles” of teaching at SLACs and state schools with hefty teaching loads.

Here’s the problem: I desperately don’t want a research job. The only part of philosophy I like is teaching it. I’m happy to do research to make sure that the content I teach is accurate and informative, but I have no interest in churning out papers to be cited four or five times. I do not want to be a leading scholar of anything. I want to teach my students how to think for themselves and how to think well.

How does someone from a research-obsessed PhD program position themselves for jobs with a strong teaching focus? (I mean where the requirements for tenure are at least 50/50 teaching and research.)

My program has given me several opportunities to teach and I have received accolades and good evaluations for my teaching, but I’ve had no luck at all convincing schools that I’m dedicated first and foremost to my students.

Amanda replied:

Peter first I would try applying to prestigious slacs. They like fancy degrees and care a lot about teaching. But also getting involved in any programs that focus on teaching. There are camps and stuff like that you can do. Do adjunct work, even if it is just one class and you don't "need" to do it. It would help show you as a serious teacher. Put teaching first on your CV (before publications) and emphasis in your cover letter what you said above: that despite the pressure to be a researcher you prefer a teaching job. Lastly, I would avoid too many and too prestigious publications. With your degree it could be easy to "over-qualify" yourself for many teaching jobs.

As for your professors. I would not mention your goals/plans unless you really really trust them, as they will try to talk you out of it. Just apply for teaching jobs and when you accept one that will be that. Given this market, it is very hard to criticize anyone for accepting a TT position of any sort. Lastly, if you are sure you would be much happier at a teaching job, I would not apply to research jobs. If you are offered the position there will be all the pressure in the world to take it. And just like that you could end up in a life-time position that makes you unhappy.

Amanda's suggestions sound basically right to me. Someone coming out of a top-program will be probably be at a disadvantage for non-elite teaching jobs–and too many high-ranking publications may only accentuate that disadvantage (due to potential assumptions by search committee members that they must be looking for a more elite job). So I agree someone like Peter should probably have their eye on more highly-ranked SLAC jobs. However, I think if someone like Peter developed themselves as a candidate and pitched themselves in the right way, they could in principle make themselves competitive for teaching jobs more generally. How?

In one sense, the answer is obvious: Peter should do whatever he reason can to make his dossier as a whole come across like someone who really wants and is well-prepared for a teaching job. But how can this be done? Here are a few suggestions, based on experience (I've been on three search committees now, and interviewed for many teaching jobs in my time on the market).

  1. Get as much solo teaching experience as you can, in as many different types of courses as you can (this not only makes you look like a candidate who wants to be a teacher; small programs at teaching schools often have particular courses they need taught–and if you can teach that course, you will probably be at a distinct advantage).
  2. Work hard on becoming a distinctive teacher: you want to stand out from hundreds of other candidates. Whatever your teaching philosophy may be, you will be well-served if you do thoughtful or creative things other candidates don't do–in the classroom, your syllabi, assignments, etc. (all of which you should include in your teaching portfolio).
  3. Write thoughtful cover letters tailored to the school you are applying to (showing you know things about the school, could teach particular courses, etc.). People at teaching schools often care about their institution and want to know that you really want to work there. Cover letters are one place you can stand out here–and are also a place where someone like Peter can draw attention to their teaching accolades (signaling that, yes, they see themselves as a teacher first and foremost).
  4. Pursue service opportunities: working with students outside of the classroom (viz. the philosophy club, etc.), or otherwise getting involved in university life (viz. other service opportunities), is another possible way to show that you you see yourself more as an educator than primarily as a researcher.
  5. Pitch your research to non-specialistspeople at teaching schools often do care about research, but can care about your ability to make your research attractive and accessible to students, administrators, etc. (i.e. people who don't read professional philosophy journals).
  6. Make sure your dossier is polished: people at R1 schools may not care how well-put together your materials are, as they are presumably interested in whether you are a killer researcher. People at teaching institutions are looking (in my experience) to hire a professional–someone who has their act together, knows how to present their work professionally, etc.

But these are just a few of my thoughts. What are yours? Especially if you work at a teaching school, what do you think someone like Peter could do to be competitive as a candidate for a job in your department?

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11 responses to “Reader query: being competitive for teaching jobs coming from a prestigious program”

  1. slac chair

    I am chair of a philosophy department at a good-not-great liberal arts school with a fairly large student population. FWIW, for us, having lots of prestigious publications does not hurt you in any way. We have interviewed folks from Leiter top-3 departments, and we have interviewed folks from top Leiter programs with an overflowing CV. What makes all the difference in the world is (again, for us) is 1-3 on Marcus’ list. 4 might be important too, but since we have a large-ish department, it isn’t so important. I would make one caveat w/r/t 2. We don’t care so much about teachers on the bleeding edge of pedagogical innovation (though we want folks who will engage students in active learning in a wide sense), we care about teachers who are committed and reflective. Committed and reflective instructors keep honing their skills, and trying to figure out what works and what doesn’t.
    Also, if you don’t have one, get a teaching letter. Have someone (perhaps the Teaching Center) at your university observe your teaching, multiple times if possible, look over your syllabi, and write you a letter of recommendation. This is really important!

  2. slac chair

    Sorry for the typos. No coffee yet…

  3. Post Doc

    I’m skeptical of the “don’t publish too much or in prestigious places” advice- seems like opinions on that differ too wildly to bet your life on it. Maybe scroll through Phil Appointments and see who got jobs you might want. I also think you should apply to R1s as well- it might make life more difficult in the happy chance you have an offer from both, but if you only have one offer you might be happier to have it.

  4. Amanda

    Exactly. Look through phil jobs and see how many people at teaching schools have top publications and are from a top department. (if you are aiming fancy, then you can go ahead and publish. But that limits the number of teaching schools you have available.) I would apply to research jobs if you think you will be at least reasonably happy there. From what the poster wrote it seems he/she wouldn’t, but maybe I read that wrong. If you tried several years at getting a teaching job and you don’t have success, then you might have reevaluate your approach. Perhaps you will need to think about whether you would be happier at research school or leaving and doing anon-academic job.

  5. SLAC Associate

    Most teaching-oriented schools need faculty that can wear a lot of different hats, so to speak, as such departments are typically small in number but still want to offer a meaningful variety of courses to their majors and their broader student bodies.
    One strategy to be successful in applications to such places is to demonstrate the ability to teach several different kinds of courses and in ways that can draw in many different kinds of students. Few teaching schools are going to want to or even be able to offer four upper-level seminars in analytic metaphysics a year, say; showing facility with service courses and/or popular courses such as applied ethics, philosophy of religion, philosophy of race & gender, philosophy of computing, philosophy of mind, Asian philosophy, etc. can go a long way.
    Alternatively, another way to get the needed breadth without going the applied ethics or interdisciplinary routes is to make one’s portfolio indicate an AOS in two areas that are not typically linked, so that, for instance, one can be the department’s expert in both Ancient Philosophy and Aesthetics, or in Modern Philosophy and Ethics, or Metaphysics and Social/Political Philosophy, etc.

  6. Joel

    n = 1, but my own experience also makes me skeptical of the advice to not publish too much or in too prestigious places. When I went on the market (last year), I had 6 publications, 5 of them in top-10 journals. My Ph.D. is from a top-20 Leiter-ranked school. I had 5 first-round interviews with teaching schools of varying kinds (large state schools, religious schools, and SLACs, of varying level of prestige and teaching-heaviness), 3 fly-outs, and 1 offer. I never hid my research accomplishments: my publications are on the first page of my CV, and I mention them on the first page of my cover letter. Of course, I also emphasized teaching: I had a strong teaching portfolio and tailored my cover letters to talk about what I could teach in a way that I thought would be attractive to particular schools. So it is certainly right that emphasizing teaching helps you at teaching schools. But while I guess I don’t know what my experience would have been had I not had so many top publications, I really don’t think it hurt me much.
    Why is this? One reason is that some teaching schools do care a lot about research. Another reason is that even if most people at a school don’t care about research, one person on the committee might, and an eye-catching research profile might get your foot in the door at that school. A third reason is that at some smaller teaching schools that are not well-connected to the discipline, the faculty really have no idea what the top journals are. They will not know the difference between a CV with publications in Mind, Nous, and J Phil and a CV with publications in Synthese, Philosophia, and Metaphilosophy.

  7. Tenured

    I think Joel is right, except for the last point about people not knowing the differences in journal ranks. The searches I have been involved in at a teaching centered school always gave serious consideration to people who had published and in good places. What I frowned on was people listing under “publications” papers that were under review. I thought the last thing I need is another deceptive colleague.

  8. SLAC tenured professor & chair

    I work at a SLAC that isn’t especially impressive. That said, my colleagues are incredible and all come from prestigious institutions with publications in some of the best journals in their sub-fields and the field more generally.
    In short, you would not be at a disadvantage at my institution, and in fact, because we routinely get 200+ applications for a tenure-track position, many people with impressive degrees and publications don’t even land a skype interview.
    With the job market being what it is, one needs the most prestigious degree they can get, and a whack of publications. I would simply stress how much you love teaching and how you see yourself fitting in the position and at least at my institution, you’d be fine.

  9. SLAC tenured professor & chair

    I work at a SLAC that isn’t especially impressive. That said, my colleagues are incredible and all come from prestigious institutions with publications in some of the best journals in their sub-fields and the field more generally.
    In short, you would not be at a disadvantage at my institution, and in fact, because we routinely get 200+ applications for a tenure-track position, many people with impressive degrees and publications don’t even land a skype interview.
    With the job market being what it is, one needs the most prestigious degree they can get, and a whack of publications. I would simply stress how much you love teaching and how you see yourself fitting in the position and at least at my institution, you’d be fine.

  10. SLAC tenured professor & chair

    I work at a SLAC that isn’t especially impressive. That said, my colleagues are incredible and all come from prestigious institutions with publications in some of the best journals in their sub-fields and the field more generally.
    In short, you would not be at a disadvantage at my institution, and in fact, because we routinely get 200+ applications for a tenure-track position, many people with impressive degrees and publications don’t even land a skype interview.
    With the job market being what it is, one needs the most prestigious degree they can get, and a whack of publications. I would simply stress how much you love teaching and how you see yourself fitting in the position and at least at my institution, you’d be fine.

  11. Amanda

    I am fascinated by all the people saying that prestige in PhD institution and publications doesn’t hurt but helps with teaching schools. From looking at Phil Jobs the past two years, and knowing people at teaching schools, this has not been true at all from what I have seen. I guess if someone really wants to solve the mystery they can spend a few days looking at the CVs of assistant professors at non-fancy teaching schools.

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