In the comments section of Tom Cochrane's post in our long job-market journeys series, Amanda writes:

Marcus can we have a thread on moving for a job? For some people who love adventure, I suppose the choice is easy. But for most people, they are faced with a real life-altering, and not at all easy, choice regarding whether to permanently move somewhere very far from friends and family or leave the profession. In my experience, there is an expectation that you must be willing to move anywhere or else you are simply not dedicated enough to be a philosopher. But is this rational? In a discipline that prides itself in critical thinking it is amazing we don't talk about the tradeoffs of being an academic. One big one is that moving away from family means it might be impossible to eventually care for aging parents. I would love to hear how some people went through this decision making process, and perhaps some thoughts on whether professional expectations are reasonable or healthy. 

An excellent query – one I haven't seen much discussed. I too would love to hear from people who've had to make these kinds decisions, both on (1) how they made their decision, and (2) their experience once the decision was made (how their lives changed, whether they are happy with the decision, etc.).

For my part, I made one decision sort of like this while on the job-market, and came very close to having to make even more difficult decisions. My first job was a VAP at the University of British Columbia. Because I was basically done with the PhD and it was the only offer I had, I accepted the offer–even though it required me to move out of the US away from the love of my life (my now-spouse). It was not a terribly difficult decision, as we had an excellent relationship that I firmly believed would survive the move. However, once I got there, it was very difficult. We flew to visit each other only once a month or so, and so even though I still had another year left in the VAP, I decided to apply for jobs back in the US. Fortunately, I got offered another VAP in Tampa, which I accepted. While I was told that transferring from an R1 job to a teaching job might have implications for my competitiveness on the job-market–something that seems borne out by my job-market experience (as the kinds of interviews I got before and after the move were very different)–moving to Tampa was nevertheless an easy decision. I was unhappy being away from my spouse, and decided to prioritize the relationship. I am glad I did.

I nearly faced much more difficult decisions later on. During my next several years on the market, I got fly-outs to several institutions on different continents: in the UK, Asia, Europe, and Africa. Although I didn't end up with job-offers (and so never had to make a difficult decision), the fact that I was a finalist and had a fair probability of getting an offer led to many difficult conversations with my spouse. I've always been the adventurous type. All things being equal, I'd be happy to move anywhere. However, my spouse was (and is) in a PhD program she couldn't easily move away from; is much more tied to being close to her family; and in many of the countries I interviewed in she would not be even able to work if we moved there (due to visa/immigration restrictions). I honestly don't know what we would have done if I had received one of those offers. I probably would have had to accept the job–but there is a real chance doing so would have taken me thousands of miles away from my spouse. It's a decision I would never want to have to make. Fortunately, somehow, I never had to. 

Anyway, these are my experiences on Amanda's topic. What are yours? Have you faced the prospect of moving for a job? How did you make the decision? Are you happy with the decision?

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6 responses to “Moving for jobs”

  1. Number Three

    My first year post-PhD, I applied to over 100 jobs around the world without much reflection on whether I wanted to live in the various countries some of these institutions were located in. I landed a flyout outside of my home country at a very prestigious institution. In the weeks leading up to the flyout, I did some real soul-searching and decided that I didn’t want to live outside of my country, or at least my home continent. So I withdrew from the flyout sort of at the last moment. It was somewhat embarrassing, but it was the right choice.

  2. Trust the Process

    I do think this is an important thing for grads to think through. In order to stay in philosophy, the vast majority will need to move more than once, often to places far from home or in some way undesirable. I told myself it wouldn’t be so, but it was for me, and for most of my friends. By the end of my market time, I had decided against applying to lots of places. Making decisions about one’s limits will limit one’s chances, but will also keep one a bit saner on the market, and will of course rule out the difficult bargaining one has to do if offered a job in a very undesirable place/institution/whatever. Of course it’s difficult to predict what one will go on to like in terms of living situations. I was helped by watching friends set up shop in all manner of places around the globe, and by seeing some be unexpectedly happy, some unexpectedly sad, some expectedly happy or sad, and by talking with them about the reasons.

  3. Mover

    This is a really important issue. I was so hungry for a permanent job, I was prepared to move almost anywhere. But I did have a partner, and they were less willing to move anywhere (in part, because of their own experiences with racism). So that was the chief constraint. I still applied very broadly. In the end few have many choices, except the choice to leave the profession. I was at a place for a while that was fine. I think many people would have found it unbearable. But I embraced the sorts of things the community had to offer. I have since moved, but I was mentally prepared to be there the rest of my career. I had one advantage over many others. I had long ago moved away from my family, and given where my family lives it was not possible to have an academic career near them. So the closest I ever was to them post-PhD was about 10 hours travelling. You get used to seeing them maybe 3 or 4 times a year.

  4. Amanda

    Mover, yes, many people get used to seeing their family 3 or 4 times a year. And while it obviously varies according to one’s family relationship, I am interested in whether this is a rational choice to make. One thing I think is true: it is not rational to at least not talk about it, and consider whether the pressure we put on early-career academics to move is justified. But few seem willing to embrace this discussion. I think because so many people have assumed sacrificing family relations is just the way it is, and that is that. Yet as philosophers, critical thinking about this matter would seem a good thing…

  5. Mover

    Amanda
    It is also important to realize that some people are going to be pressured to move far from family even if they do not pursue an academic career. I grew up in a rather remote place where there were few opportunities. Unemployment was high, and seasonal unemployment common. So an academic career did not seem risky, just highly improbable.

  6. Amanda

    Sure mover, that is possible. But on average an academic career has far less location options than almost any other career. Most people, statistics show, (I’m talking in the US), spend their whole life fairly close to home. And even if you live in a place like yours, often you can find a job a few hours drive from home rather than, for instance, an 8 hour plane ride.

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