In our December "how can we help you?" thread, a reader writes:

Question on doing interdisciplinary work. I've done empirically inspired philosophical work before, but am now taking on a postdoc in a non-philosophy project. This leads me to wondering how to ensure that I remain a competitive candidate within Philosophy. I assume I need to make sure I also publish my own, solo, philosophical work — but I can't realistically do as much of it as someone doing a philosophy postdoc. Are there ways to help make the non-philosophical research help and not hinder future hires? Also, will recommendation letters from my non-philosopher supervisors in that postdoc count for anything? A further concern is that this is a research only position, which means it doesn't enable expanding my meager teaching portfolio. Should I try to adjunct a class or two on the side to make up for that?

These are interesting questions. This appears to me to be a serious issue for postdocs in Europe. In the United States, postdocs aren't hired to complete a particular project. But from what I can tell, in at least some places in Europe, that's exactly what postdocs are: one is hired (it seems) into a position funded by a particular grant or whatever, and your activities in the postdoc are supposed to be on the funded project, whatever it is. Assuming this is right, it seems to me to place postdocs in a terrible position in multiple respects. First, the postdoc may have to more or less give up on their own research program in favor of the grant-funded project. And second, as we see in the OP, the project may be largely empirical or not even in philosophy.

What should postdocs in this kind of position do? I think the OP is right that they should try to continue publishing solo philosophy work on the side. But aside from that, I'm not sure. I don't know how useful recommendation letters from non-philosophers will be for applying for jobs in philosophy. And given that postdocs like the one the OP described don't have teaching, the OP is in a triple-bind: they need to somehow spend most of their time working on their postdoc project, while also publishing solo work in philosophy and (ideally) getting some teaching experience. All things being equal, I think seeking out adjunct work would be a good idea–but, as we see here, all things aren't equal. I don't know how someone in their position can realistically do all of the above. So unfortunately, I have to confess that I don't know what to say here. It seems to me that postdoc practices like these place recent PhDs in an extremely difficult position, one that I don't have any clear views on how to best navigate (in large part because I've never been in the situation myself).

Do any readers out there have any better answers? Have any of you been in a similar position? If so, what would you suggest the OP do? If not, what do you think the OP should do, looking at it from an outside perspective?

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3 responses to “Staying competitive in philosophy in a non-philosophy postdoc?”

  1. Miriam

    I am in a similar position to you, just a few years behind you (i.e. just about to finish my PhD). I don’t have any great advice/experience to give, but from my own personal point of view, I can tell you what I plan: My work is part in philosophy, part in social sciences, and it may be that I’ll get a social science Post-Doc too. To be perfectly honest, if that happens I do not expect to return to philosophy if the discipline still scoffs at empirical work at every turn and simply find a place somewhere else where this type of work is valued. Plus with a Post Doc that uses stats/programming, you may be much more employable in ‘industry’ than regular philosophers who lack any such comparable skills.
    Either way, all the best!

  2. from Europe

    Let me clarify … as I have hired a post doc for a project. Ideally – and normally as well – the post doc who is hired is interested in the project. In fact, the post doc was probably selected for the position BECAUSE their own research lines up with the project. Indeed, if it were not case, it is unlikely you would be deemed qualified for the job. These things are taken very seriously. Further, such positions usually afford a person time for other research. But North Americans must realize that when they enter the European market, they are entering a very different job market.

  3. science-vacation

    I was in the same situation (and now have a TT job in philosophy at an R1). I disagree that OP is in a “terrible position”! As far as I can tell, it was a positive on the job market to have real experience with scientific research. I didn’t publish lots of solo-authored philosophy in my post-doc or adjunct at all… teaching schools, especially SLACs, might be put off by less experience but my hunch is that they are also more likely to be genuinely into cross-disciplinary stuff, since with a smaller faculty, you work more closely with other departments. If you’re in the sciences as I was, you can also spin supervising undergrad research as a sort of teaching (which in my experience, it kind of is).
    You’ll probably want to keep in close contact with other philosophers in your area, and have a pitch ready about how you see your work fitting in to philosophy. I didn’t have a letter from my post-doc advisor, but they were contacted at least once by someone at a place I was interviewing, so you should at least make sure that your PI is in the loop about applications. Another thing I did was have one co-authored project with my post-doc advisor that was straight philosophy and published in a philosophy journal – a little bit of this might be a good way to do your job but also add to your philosophy cred.
    So don’t despair! Or, I guess, despair away about the state of the market in general, but not extra about coming from a post-doc in a different field.

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