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Workshop papers as “invited presentations”?

In our most recent "how can we help you?" thread, a reader asks:

Suppose I'm invited to participate in (i.e., present a draft of a paper at) a workshop at an institution outside my home state. Should this go on my CV under "invited presentations"? The reason I ask is because (i) I wouldn't put a workshop I participated in at my home institution on my CV, since workshopping papers with colleagues at home is a rather mundane part of the research process; and (ii) listing it under "invited presentations" might be misleading, since it might give readers the impression that I was invited to give a colloquium talk or something like that. But since I worked so hard and travelled so far to give the paper, I feel it would be a shame not to list it somewhere.

It seems to me entirely right to list this as an invited presentation, as the salient difference to me is that it's at another institution–that one was invited to. I'd just be sure to list next to the paper title that it was a workshop. That seems to me to give the reader of the CV everything they need to know (it's not a colloquium talk per se).

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5 responses to “Workshop papers as “invited presentations”?”

  1. listing

    I agree with Marcus. If you are invited, then it deserves being listed as an invited talk. All this matters very little in the long run. After a while, one tends to list only their most prestigious invited talks. The key is not to be deceptive – imagine someone tries to do a google search (and some do?!): what would they find? If there is no trace of the event, then it is best not to list it.

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  2. confused

    What am I missing here? Of course workshop invitations are real invitations. Of course you should label things clearly so they don’t look like colloquia (I label things e.g. “department colloquium”, “moral psychology workshop”, etc.)
    I don’t put internal talks on my cv because they are internal talks (and it rarely if ever makes sense to describe them as “invited”).
    Of course, if a workshop is just a sign-up thing, or a group of friends who rotate presentations, don’t list it as an invited presentation. But if someone from a different university invites you to give a talk in their “workshop” it is very much an invited presentation.
    Also @listing I have tons of (non-deceptive!) items on my cv that there is not an internet record of. That can’t be the bar! I’ve given colloquium talks in departments that don’t list their talks online, or only do on a google calendar (which is not going to come up on a google search), or only list them in internally accessible ways. I’ve given conference talks where there is no website for the conference. And I’ve certainly given workshop talks where there is no website for the workshop. But they are all real talks I’ve given; I’m not going to not list them because someone would have to ask a human being to corroborate that I had done them.

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  3. Bill V.

    INVITED PRESENTATIONS
    …
    (invited workshop participant) Presented an early draft of “Paper Title” at the University of X Workshop in Subject, dates.

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  4. Late early career

    I’d like to second confused’s suggestion. You should definitely list the invited workshop presentations. Put them on your cv with the name of the workshop, the date, and the location. Fine differences with colloquia don’t matter.
    I don’t think that having an internet footprint is required to list something on your cv. Plenty of my real talks are not listed anywhere online, and some of the ones that were listed at one point no longer are as different institutional accounts have closed.

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  5. Farmer

    On my CV I just have one list of talks, and a note saying *=invited, then I star the invited ones. Any reason not to do it this way?

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