By Kino Zhao

In 2022, the APA announced its pilot 2+1 virtual conference program, stating “the three APA divisions have agreed to conduct a three-year experiment with a rotating schedule of two in-person divisional meetings and one virtual divisional meeting per year, beginning in 2025.”

In 2025, the Central Division hosted the first virtual APA. As expected, a default level of skepticism over virtual conferences plus technical difficulties associated with inexperience translated into comparably low attendance. Still, I remember being impressed that it was quite well run as a first attempt.

My own view on the merits of virtual conferences has changed over the following year, and I have spoken out in support of the 2+1 experiment. In preparation for the 2026 Pacific Division iteration of the experiment, the Program Chair Colin Marshall invited me to contribute to an APA Blog Series aimed at persuading fellow philosophers to give virtual conferences another chance.

My Blog Post was published on January 13th, 2026. On the same day, the APA announced that it would terminate the three-year experiment early.

There are many things I want to say about this, but I will limit myself to three things.

First, it is absolutely wild to me that any serious organization would terminate a three-year experiment with only one year’s worth of data. This isn’t even to mention the fact that the first year is always a learning year. The format is new. (At least, the intentional design of the online APA is new, building on experience from the crisis designs of conferences during the COVID shutdowns.)  The platform is new. The organizers are new. The attendees are new. As the first step towards kickstarting a new project, it is absolutely priceless. As data that can project onto future performance, it is absolutely useless.

But suppose, by some miracle, the first year is as good as it will ever get, there is still no epistemically justifiable reason to cut the experiment short. A three-year experiment is already on the short side for drawing inferences – it generates only three data points. Having only gathered one and a half data points (with submission numbers but not attendance numbers for the Pacific) is plainly inadequate even for a pilot program.

Second, the fact that the APA executive committee can simply decide to cut short a three-year commitment on short notice and without public consultation with the APA membership seems incongruous with the history of interaction between the governing body and the APA community. I was not part of the initial deliberation that led to the 2+1 experiment, but I understand that Philosophers of Sustainability launched a petition for the pilot program, gathering over 700 signatures from APA members, which the APA cites as a main motivation for taking the demand seriously. Why, then, should the committee have subsequently chosen to reverse their decision so quickly and without public deliberation? 

I am not involved in APA governance, and so perhaps the internal process of deliberation was more complex than the public announcements suggest. What I do know is that the APA Blog Series on the Pacific virtual conference began in November of 2025. One might think it would be prudent for the APA to take notice of the ongoing push initiated by its own Program Chair to support a project it is deciding to terminate and, I don’t know, give us a heads up.

Third, as a member at large, the way in which the APA seems to be reasoning about the virtual conference issue troubles me. According to the termination announcement, the reason for concluding the experiment early is as follows:

“The process of organizing an online meeting is more challenging for the program committee than organizing an in-person meeting, online meetings are more taxing on APA staff, and the technology for large online meetings is often difficult for participants to navigate. And perhaps most telling, participant feedback on the Central Division meeting indicates that while many people appreciate that the online format may be more accessible for some people, a large number report that they personally would not participate in another online meeting.”

A couple of paragraphs later, the announcement continues:

“The divisions and the board of officers recognize that the motivations for initiating the 2+1 experiment—primarily climate impact and accessibility—remain, and the APA will continue to pursue those goals in other ways.”

It seems to me that the reasoning is as follows: we understand that there are people who can only attend online conferences. However, because many people who can attend in-person conferences will not attend online conferences, we have decided to disregard the request of people who can only attend online conferences.

Set aside the problematic populism implicit in this reasoning. As far as I can tell, the original motivations for starting the 2+1 experiment were not the (false) impression that most people who can attend in-person conferences prefer online conferences. Instead, it was (1) accessibility, or the consideration of those who can only attend online conferences, and (2) climate conscientiousness, or the normative judgment that those who can attend in-person conferences ought to do it less often. Neither of these motivations was addressed by the APA’s rationale for terminating the experiment.

Finally, it is worth stressing the point that we currently have little evidence that suggests that the claims expressed in the rationale actually reflect common attitudes in the membership at large. The claim that people who can attend in-person conferences will not attend online conferences comes from a survey sent to those who have registered at the virtual Central Division meeting. By APA’s own light, there weren’t that many people registering. That is, by APA’s own light, an overall small number of people from our community (who may very well change their minds) expressed unwillingness to attend another online conference on a survey following the first installment of an online conference. To put any weight on that seems epistemically irresponsible to me.

According to Colin Marshall, the virtual Pacific APA received about 800 registrations, in comparison to about 1100 people that came to the last in-person Pacific APA. That does not seem to be a big discrepancy to me. Anecdotally, one speaker in a session I attended at the virtual Pacific APA began his talk by stating that he would not have been able to go to any APA if it wasn’t for the online format, while another speaker zoomed in from a different continent. If we surveyed them, they would probably state an unwillingness to attend in-person APAs. I hope no one takes that as evidence that we should stop hosting in-person conferences.

At the end of the day, I am only a member. I have never been involved in APA governance and I can only imagine how difficult it must be to make an organization like the APA function. At the same time, I also think it’s important for a regular member to share a perspective. I am deeply impressed by both the amount and the quality of work the APA virtual conference teams, at both Central and Pacific, have put in to make this experiment work. It is truly disappointing to see the dedication and ingenuity behind the first two online APA meetings get squandered.

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10 responses to “An opinion on APA’s decision to terminate its 2+1 virtual pilot early – by Kino Zhao”

  1. Anonymous

    Wow, this seems a shame to me. I presented in an online APA and that was the first, and now probably last, APA I’ve attended. Since I am based in Europe, I am only likely to consider attending conferences like this remotely (both because of the cost and the inordinate troubles of flying through the US).

    For what it’s worth, I experienced some significant technical difficulties at the APA conference, but they were always in the end resolved. They were things that I assumed would be ironed out in the next iteration.

    I also do have a strong preference for in person conferences, but I’ve attended a number of online only conferences and am likely to continue doing so occasionally. This is partly as a means of reducing the environmental, financial and time costs of international travel.

    1. I’m actually very much in the same boat — strong preference for in person conferences + hate tech difficulties. But I was really impressed by how fast the APA is addressing this issue through having tech host in every session (at least every session I attended). As you say, it’s the sort of thing that gets ironed out in future iterations. I also think that it requires some baseline familiarity with the tech (things like browser audio permissions) that needs to slowly permeate through our community just like the in-person Q&A norms and such. That’s why it’s shocking to me that the APA decides to call it quits so soon.

  2. woo online!

    I really appreciate this perspective, and am similarly disappointed. As someone with Long Covid, for whom in-person conferences are always full of very crowded rooms with very little ventilation (meaning high risk of contracting another viral illness), I value online conferences tremendously. I’m also now a member of a department where I get minimal travel funding, meaning most conferences are out of reach financially as well. I get that I’m in the minority, but I felt like 1/3 conferences each year being online was a good compromise.

    1. Totally agree. I met many people during this Pacific who are in your boat (not always because of Long Covid, but for a variety of reasons). Interestingly many of them, like yourself, think that they are “a minority so they understand of the rest of the APA doesn’t want to do it”. I begin to wonder if that’s in fact true. Of course people who much prefer online will be a minority in the in-person conferences, and people who can’t ever attend in person will slowly stop caring about the APA (and therefore won’t be the first to jump onboard the virtual experiment). That’s why I think it’s so deeply problematic for the APA to double-down on exclusively serving the group of philosophers who can regularly attend in-person, who very possibly is in fact a minority in numbers.

  3. Anonymous

    Shout out to Kino!

  4. Anonymous

    I haven’t been a member of the APA in quite awhile, mostly because I don’t/can’t attend the conferences (too far, no funding, etc.), so I don’t have a stake in this really. But some general thoughts anyway. While I like the idea of online conferences for accessibility, I hypothesize that the reason they don’t generally work very well is that they combine the worst features of both face-to-face and online. Making the presentations available on YouTube, for asynchronous viewing, maximizes accessibility while minimizing the inconvenience of logging on at specific times (given work, family, time zones, etc.). I know that’s a lot less like a conference since the audience is not all present at the same time. But, trade-offs.

    1. I am sympathetic to this. This is in fact why I was very skeptical of online conferences as of only a year ago (I was very critical of the virtual Central and very possibly was one of the people who said “no” on the survey). However, I have been very impressed by the level of ingenuity that has gone into making virtual conferences work. One example is what Kerry Mckenzie had done with PSA Office Hour, where grad students can sign up for an hour-long virtual office hour with a “big shot” in the field and talk philosophy. The motivation was to find effective virtual networking alternatives and I think it works much better than in-person networking where one needs to pray to be seated at the right table or know the right people at the smoker. As I tried to argue in my APA Blog piece, I think we should give our collective ingenuity a chance. Online conferences may still be very bad right now, but we should be open to the possibility that they will one day be net-comparable to in-person conferences. And one way to be open to that possibility is to be patient with the experimentation and be willing to try new stuff out, even when most of the new stuff don’t work.

  5. Anonymous

    I learned a great deal from Kino’s and Colin’s articles — they prompted me to think more carefully about what academic conferences are actually for. I have no data, but I suspect that the divergent attitudes toward online APA meetings reflect the varied professional circumstances of people in our field.

    I’ll speak only to why I have not attended online APAs, and likely won’t. A bit of background: I work in an undergraduate-only department at a state university in a rural area.

    For me, the greatest value of conferences has always come from the informal interactions, not the talks or Q&As, but the conversations in other occasions. I should be clear: this is not about networking. I am, frankly, not good at networking. I mean things like discussing an unexpected idea with a speaker after their talk, falling into conversation with a stranger or a friend of a friend, reconnecting with former advisors or graduate school cohorts. These moments gave me a sense of belonging to the profession. For someone at my kind of institution, a conference is often the only occasion to speak at length with people who share similar philosophical interests. Online social hours exist, but they feel different.

    What about the academic part, the talks, and Q&A? Well, because of the nature of my job, I have already fallen way behind in terms of research. While those talks were always inspiring, honestly, I might get the similar experience by searching for philosophers’ talks on Youtube, or by reading more published papers or the drafts people posted online.

    There are also some logistic challenges. I am not sure if my institution would be happy if I cancel classes for the sake of attending online meetings. (My institution has become increasingly strict about canceling classes.) I probably won’t be able to attend any evening sessions because of family duties. Of course, I can pretend that I am away at a real conference. But the reality is just different.

    My sense (largely my speculation) is that online APAs work best for those with active research programs who want to engage with the most current work, or for those already embedded in a community where an online session functions as a reunion of sorts. With all that being said, I believe that online APAs do have merits for many people and should not be terminated so quickly.

    1. I place great value in the kind of informal interactions you mentioned and I also think that nothing online can really replace it. (Gather Town has never done it for me, for example, but I also understand that some people enjoy it and so I support it being an option.) For this reason, I don’t think we should do away with in-person conferences entirely. Though, that was never the proposal on the table. The idea is that the occasional online format will bring in goods that the in-person formats don’t have, even if it means losing some goods that are only accessible to in-person conferences. I think 2+1 is a good compromise.

      I do want to push back on your hypothesis that “online APAs work best for those with active research programs who want to engage with the most current work, or for those already embedded in a community”. Anecdotally, the group of people I got to interact with the most during this virtual Pacific were people in teaching-focused schools who don’t have the funding to travel and don’t want to cancel class. I also think that the online format works a lot better with people who aren’t super research active but have an idea every so often that they want to share. As an introvert myself, in-person conferences suck when I don’t know enough people. Everybody has friends to catch up with and I can’t even find a dinner partner (saying to a speaker “I liked your talk” was not enough to have them dine with me, alas). I often feel this way about the APA because my AOS is often not well represented on the APA program and so my friends don’t usually go (that’s being changed now, but that’s a different topic). I imagine something similar got to be true with people not in research jobs. By equally stripping everyone of the opportunity to “catch up with friends”, the online format might be a better way for people without a big research social circle to connect with each other and talk only about philosophy for a few hours. Besides, I am much more open to spending $200 to attend half a conference on zoom than I am spending $2000 to eat hotel dinner by myself.

  6. Trevor Hedberg

    I voiced some of these same issues on social media a few weeks ago. The bailout on the 3-year plan looked to me like a substantial professional failure, especially since many of the reported challenges with the first APA seemed fixable. Additionally, if you commit to a 3-year experiment on the basis of promoting values like environmental sustainability, accessibility, and inclusivity, the abrupt abandonment of the experiment suggests that those values are not viewed as particularly important. Definitely a bad look for the APA as far as I’m concerned.

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