In our August “how can we help you?” thread, a reader asks:

I keep hearing how when it comes to books, those published in top presses like OUP and CUP are the only ones that might impress a search committee. But how much weight do these actually have on the job market?

What the OP has heard about books may or may not be true of hiring committees at prestigious R1s (though I don’t know for sure)–but I definitely don’t think it’s true as a generalization. My sense is that at less prestigious places (including many liberal arts colleges and universities), committees can look favorably upon good books published well outside of “top presses” like OUP and CUP. But I’d love to hear others’ impressions.

What do readers think? It would be great to hear from people who have served on search committees, as well as present and/or past job-candidates.

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9 responses to “How do search committees weight published books (and presses)?”

  1. Anonymous

    The general advantage of peer reviewed publications over books is that they are peer reviewed. That’s an imprimatur valued by search committees. If you have those *and* a book, I don’t see how anyone could complain. A book itself probably can’t be a negative, but a book and no/few articles could be.

    Every university is different when it comes to tenure standards and local culture. The same university often has different requirements and expectations in different departments. All this makes it very difficult give an answer to the OPs question that is widely applicable. For example, in History departments at places I’ve worked, a book was a *minimum* expectation for getting tenure. I was told in the Philosophy department at the same institution, for promotion to full professor, a book would not count for as many journal articles as it has chapters, but some proportion thereof. And across different universities you’ll find very big differences about how these things are done. A lot of it is vibes by the search committee, and that can change from year to year and case to case. Local knowledge is the only knowledge when it comes to T&P. For very prestige-conscious places I could see an argument that journal quality is a more objective {insert eyeroll emoji} measure than book or press quality, so they’d rather have you publish in the top journals than publish books. But if that is the argument, working in such a place sounds terrible and you don’t want such a job anyway.

    *Why mention tenure in an answer about search committee opinions? Because search committees want to hire someone who can earn tenure in their department.* Your job as a candidate is to make it clear that your research trajectory will meet that local standard on time.

    If you want to get into such details, you could look at recently-tenured people in the departments to which you are applying. If they have books, then you know that department doesn’t discount books too much. (But a lack of pre-tenure books doesn’t tell you anything of course, that’s just a typical publishing path for a junior scholar.) But this level of research is mostly a waste of your time and emotional energy. Just put forward the best application package you can.

    Writing a book pre-tenure is a risky business mostly because the timelines are so long. The process of writing a book proposal and shopping it to presses can take quite a bit of effort and time. It takes much longer to write a book than you might expect, and a lot longer for it to get into print after it is written than you would even think possible. This can mean you do a lot of quality work but that it doesn’t see the light of day before you go up for tenure, and then get denied. Whereas the same amount of effort directed towards journal articles would have been a slam-dunk approval.

    Which press is the tippy-top depends quite a lot on the subfield, too, BTW. Princeton, Routledge, Brill, etc., are all good in certain areas.

    FWIW, a book *contract* is not worth anything in a search or tenure case. Many contracted books never get published (are never finished, the press turns down the submitted manuscript, etc.). Only achievements, not promises of future achievements, have weight.

    1. Anonymous

      Question then: If one is on the market with a book under contract, are you saying to leave it off your CV? To not even mention it in a cover letter? That would surely be too extreme, right? How do you suggest mentioning it? ‘My book project…’ and then leave it to them to see that it is under contract on your CV, but don’t make a big show of this yourself? As you say, it counts for nothing.

      1. Paul

        I didn’t write the post above, but I can speak to this. You should definitely mention a book under contract in your app letter and discuss it in more detail in your research statement, but on its own it carries *almost* no weight. We have gotten burned before when a book stated to be “under contract” either takes years to come out or wasn’t actually under contract (much bigger problem). The key is how does this “under contract” book fit into the rest of your research trajectory? Have you published a couple papers in good journals related to the book? Have you presented aspects of the book at bigger conferences or competitive workshops? Do we see concrete evidence that you can push your research to the finish line, that is the question, because having something under contract can mean nothing.

      2. Anonymous

        I made the post you are replying to. I’d say mention a book under contract in your research statement or where you describe the plan of what you are going to do in the future.

  2. Paul

    My university has clear Tenure guidelines in each department and/or college. In my interdisciplinary department, 6-10 articles (journal quality obviously matters a lot) or a book and a “few” articles are the minimum. The book must be on a reputable University or academic trade press (such as Routledge or Bloomsbury if they are well-regarded in the sub-discipline), and again, press quality/reputation matters.

    In general articles are the safer route because they are so much more rigorously reviewed. How many times did you present the paper at a conference, how many journals did you submit it to, how many rounds of reviews (and separate reviewers) did it go through to get published? So yes, if I am on a committee and I see a candidate with a few pubs in high quality journals versus a candidate with one book on a so-so press, I am inclined to believe that the former candidate will be able to reach our publication benchmark while on tenure track, but I am less certain about the latter.

  3. Not usually Anon

    First let me echo Anonymous . There is an immense amount of variation in the cultures of different departments even within North America but even more so in different parts of the world. This means that questions such as the OP’s – are books published in top presses like OUP and CUP the only ones that will impress a search committee? – often don’t have a determinate answer. What impresses a search committee in one place can fail to impress in another. What is good for a candidate in one place can be bad in another and what is better in one place can be worse in another. There are, no doubt, ridiculously snobby departments in which only books with OUP and CUP count, there are other departments in which books count for a lot less than journal articles in top venues, and yet other departments which set a high value on books but are not too fussy about the publisher. Thus the attempt to be strategic about where and with whom to publish is probably a bad strategy since what works in some places won’t work elsewhere. There is no inside dope about what will reliably give you an edge (a problem with many of the queries posted on the Philosopher’s Cocoon) since there is too much variation for any single strategy to produce reliable results. .

    Okay, having issued that massive caveat, let me say this. It is a while since I served on a Search Committee but in my department any book would impress us though we would be *more* impressed by a book from a top publisher than a book from Boondock University Press. But books can backfire. Some years ago there was candidate for a post with a book from a prestigious press to boast of. This boosted him onto the shortlist. Then we read the book. We found it so monumentally dull – competent but deadly dull – that we dropped him like a hot potato. It isn’t just *where* you publish that counts or *what kinds of things you publish* but whether what you publish is any good.

  4. Mike Titelbaum

    Just to add a datum as a search committee member at an R1: press reputation matters, but it is *not* the case that we would only be impressed by a book from OUP or CUP.

  5. Anonymous

    Personally I am not impressed by routledge books. I’ve had friends say their manuscript was never peer reviewed and I once reviewed a proposal for them in which I said, essentially, this book doesn’t seem to add much or include much originality and the book came out 6 months later. Given those experiences I dont have much confidence in their quality. That’s not to say I wouldn’t ever read a routledge book obviously, but if it’s just a line on a cv it wouldn’t count much in my eyes.

  6. Anonymous

    I have published a few books with one of the big publishers. It does pay to publish with the more reputable publishers. You will sell more books and, generally, your books will have a greater chance of being read. THAT IS WHAT YOU WANT. Most research universities buy most OUP and CUP books … in part because they are now included in the “packages” of e-books that the publishers sell to the libraries. Further, the big publishers pay royalties to authors (though it is not a lot of money, it is nice to get a cheque every six months).
    I would not recommend trying to publish a book before tenure (unless you have to) … it takes a long time to get through the process (and at the good presses, they are vetted quite rigorously). I wrote most of my first book during a sabbatical in 2008-9 … it came out in print in 2011. I did learn from the first time, so subsequent books moved a little faster through the process.
    Does it help with tenure and promotion to publish with the big two publishers? It depends where you are. I was at a state university when I published my first book and a colleague in another discipline said to me: the administration does not care if you publish with CUP or University of Kentucky Prees. I think he was right about that. But, a good book with a good publisher will lead to invitations to give talks … and possibly even opportunities to move (if you want that).

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